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Background

Ours is a story of two projects.  One was founded by Ed Ogle in 2003, called the Oghgul DNA Project, the other, the Ogle Family DNA Project, was founded in 2004 by Jim Gilbert.  Each project has different interest, Oghgul finding our European roots and Ogle finding our American roots, yet with a single purpose of identifying John Ogle the soldier’s parents.   Based on the nature of family associations and naming conventions in the first millennium of our era, Ed Ogle was matching to other family names and realized there may be “lost” family out there.  Therefore, the Oghgul Project now refers any requests from family members specifically named Ogle to the Ogle Family DNA Project.  Both Jim Gilbert and Ed Ogle remain active in their respective projects.  In 2009, the Ogle/Ogles Family Association, Inc. board voted to officially sponsor the activities of the Ogle Family DNA Project.  Our project has two on-going tasks:  DNA testing for all Ogle/Ogles Sons tracing the Y-chromosome (Y-DNA); and the Ogle Family Daughters Project tracing the mitochondria DNA (mtDNA).

Ogle/Ogles Y-chromosome testing for Ogle Males

OOFA uses the Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) because the size of a database, that is the number of people testing is essential to finding family.  In January, 2010 FTDNA’s Database contained 280,618 records, from 5,753 Surname Projects, and 93,284 unique surnames.  FTDNA test are for Genealogy purposes only, these test can not determine health or paternity conditions.

The Ogle Project’s intent therefore, is to collect DNA samples from as many men of the name Ogle or Ogles as possible, including information on their proven lines of descent as possible.

Y-DNA is passed from father to son almost forever.  However, DNA does change, science calls the changes Mutations.  Over the last 80,000 years these changes have allowed scientist to track the movement of tribes and families.  The Ogle Project hopes to provide the relationships among our different branches, and provide clues how one ancestor may be linked to other known individuals in the family, to link the lost links as it were.  It is the OOFA Board’s sincere hope that, with enough information from the various lines around the world, additional clues may determined the parentage of John Ogle Soldier of Delaware (c. 1648-c. 1684), progenitor of most Ogle/Ogles descendants in the United States.  If you chose to test your DNA, by joining the Ogle project you receive a discount and will automatically be included in the database for immediate comparison to other Ogles. 

For Ogle Family Y-DNA testing use the Ogle Project  Administrator, Jim Gilbert.


However, If you are doing only mtDNA testing
I believe the OGHGUL Project to be more suitable.  Administrator, Ed Ogle.


Ogle Family Daughters Project   

The Ogle Family Daughters Project may prove to be a more daunting task.  We wish to identify descendants from two Ogle women whose parentage have been puzzles: is Elizabeth Ogle (who married  James Andrews, died 1787) the daughter of CAPT Joseph Ogle (1747-1821) and his first wife, Prudence Drusilla Biggs, or the daughter of his brother Jacob Ogle and Jacob’s wife Mary Wilson/White?

Is Drusilla Ogle the daughter of CAPT Joseph Ogle his child by his first wife Prudence Drusilla Biggs, or by his second wife, Jemima Meigs? By tracking down living descendants who can trace an unbroken line of females back to these two women (or to other, documented daughters for these unions). 

Since daughters can not carry their fathers Y-DNA daughters can only be traced by Mitochondria DNA or mtDNA, mtDNA is passed from mother to all her daughters forever.  Women today carry the mtDNA of their female ancestors from 80,000 years ago and beyond. 

The daunting part of tracing women is that once their names have changed finding their nth grandmothers is very difficult.  Therefore, regardless of family name a woman may well be the granddaughter we seek.  This leaves another dilemma that may be solved only by a son.  If no daughters were born to a mother, and unlike a father who does not pass his Y-DNA to his daughter, a mother does pass her mtDNA to her immediate son.  For instance Ed Ogle has tested fully his mtDNA and will match any sister or mother from his mother’s line.

We hope to interest women from all families that believe they can claim these mothers as ancestors.  Criteria for selection of candidates were provided in the Spring 2009 issue of Ogling for Ogles, found on page 3 of the ogles.org website

If you are doing only mtDNA testing I suggest the OGHGUL Project is more suitable.


If anyone has mtDNA matching HVR1 as 16069T, 16193T, 16278T, 16362C and
HVR2 as 73G, 150T, 152C, 263G, 295T, 315.1C, 489C    PLEASE notify me HERE Please

 

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